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conditions for many and slower holiday travel. look at where you can expect delays. president obama spending the last few hours in hawaii relaxing before he heads back to washington to hope to get a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff. we look at what happens if the deal does not happen. spoiler alert, it will cause you money. grapevine, david gregory could be in trouble for a segment on his sunday show. we show you what happened. "special report" starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern standard time. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: is it a horrible offense to be too good look? apparently so in iowa. they ruled a dentist james night had a right to fire his dental assistant melissa nelson for being too irresistible. and a perceived threat to his marriage. nelson worked in the office for ten years said she viewed knight as father figure and was fired after his wife complained about his infatuation with her. >> after working for so many years side-by-side, i didn't have any idea that that would have crossed his mind. i think it sends a message that men can do whatever they want in
. the big question is, president obama's increased spending a lot over the past four years. how will he get the revenue from that? is raising tax rates on the so-called rich enough to do it? no, it's not. it doesn't bring in enough money. one the ways he might do it is to squeeze the energy companies a little more. coming up, ceo of southern company, one of the most important guys in the universe will join us right here to say if he expects the big squeeze from the white house. >> i'm david asman with your fox business brief and here east one crisis averted anyway. unions representing dock workers and shippers reached a agreement delaying a strike that could have cripple the u.s. economy. longshoremen and maritime alliance agreed to postpone for 30 days. >>> this would mark the best year for the auto industry since 2007, but experts say the gains made in december could be overshadowed in january because of concerns about the fiscal cliff. >>> the chinese government announcing stiff new rules and requiring users to provide real names to service providers. the move place as greater burden on
and filling up with a special christmas dinner. >>> and president obama spending christmas with his family in hawaii and he played a rounds of golf with friends. it will be a short vacation because the president is expected back in washington later this week, just before the fiscal cliff deadline. >>> congress also home for the holidays and that means there's not a lot going on with the fiscal cliff negotiations. if no deal is reached in one week, the tax cuts enacted under president bush will expire and 1.2 trillion in spending cuts will automatically go into effect. if we do go over the fiscal cliff, how will it affect you from your paycheck to your retirement accounts? we're going to give you all the tips you need to protect yourself. here to do that this morning is ry ryan mac, president of opt middle school management. >> kudos for being able to pronounce that honolulu merry christmas saying. >> i don't think i can do it again. ahah! let's start with your paycheck as it applies to the fiscal cliff. if we go off the fiscal live how will mooirn and everybody's paycheck be affected? the
party. president obama is therefore offering his original position, $250,000 and below. on spending cuts president obama proposed $1.2 trillion, about equal to what he was asking in revenue. boehner passed draconian spending cuts in the house with no revenue component. on extended unemployment insurance, another check for the president. nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, is john boehner's move to reconvene the house a face-saving political move or a genuine effort to reach a deal? text a for political. text b for genuine effort. to 622639. or go to our blog at.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later
years old. >>> and president obama meeting with congressional liters this afternoon at the white house to try to cut a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. in ten days across h board-spends cuts take effect. >>> if president obama and congress fails to reach an agreement the price of milk could lead sharply. john blackstone reports. >> who wants milk? >> me. >> me. >> me. >> reporter: with four children the rasmussen family in california drinks about five gallons a week on milk. if congress doesn't pass the bill, i would cost him $106. >> they have to have their milk. we might have to cut elsewhere. >> reporter: back then the process was more laborious and farmers needed a higher subsidy to cover their costs. dan sumner says the new price of milk will with far above what it now costs dairy farmers to produce it. >> it really will be chaos. >> reporter: so we would go back to this old farm bill which would force the government to buy milk at an extremely high price. >> that's right. >> reporter: this could be a windfall for dairy farmers. >> here's the problem. they don't want chao
that republicans for cutting spending. you heard mitt romney criticize president obama because he's not spending enough on ships, which we don't need, and not staying long enough in the war zones. the republicans' view of spending is very particular one. secondly, as far as the american people are concerned, people in their districts, gee, if they represent districts in new jersey and new york they want more spending. you know, people -- if you ask them they want government pending they say no. do you want to cut medicare? no, not that. how about firefighters? people boast of cutting government. when was the last time you heard them cut fire department or cut down on snow removal? in fact the republicans tend to be opposed to spending in general. when it comes to particular spending, remember paul ryan acknowledging he was seeking to get the stimulus money that he was denouncing. but in any case, it's not the democratic position we should put all of the increased revenue into spending. by the way, i believe much of government spending is very important. there are things that we need for the qual
are doing about it. have a look. president obama spending christmas eve on the links in honolulu with friends. while lawmakers relax at home for the holidays. right now the senate looks like it might be the only hope for a compromise deal. can a deal be struck? white house correspondent brianna is traveling with the first family in honolulu, hawaii. hey, brianna, good morning. >> good morning, to you, it's been many silent nights actually in washington these days. not because there's nobody there to sort of figure out what's going on with the fiscal cliff but also, because folks really aren't talking. we know the white house is talking to senate democrats as we look to the senate as he reconvene on thursday, really, the last-ditch effort to try to do something. as of yet, congressional democrats in the white house are not talking with congressional republicans. that's even at the staff level. what we're expecting now is that the senate majority leader harry reid will try to get something together to get republican support in both the house and the senate. but what they're looking
for sticking around. >> thanks for having me. >> over the past month, president obama has been spending a lion's share of his time negotiating with speaker boehner, that did not work. what can you tell us about the key individuals involved in the process now, president obama, senator majority leader harry reed and mitch mcconnell. what is the tone? >> it's all about the senate right now, that is one of the more remarkable developments. all along we thought it would be between the obama white house and house speaker john boehner and there was a logic behind that. because getting legislation out of the house is the trickier part of crafting any type of deal. but with the house saying look, we need the senate to do something, the last ditch effort is occurring in the senate right now. i spoke to staffers close to senator mcconnell that said there was optimism on their side yesterday, including from their boss, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell to get a deal. of course, any kind of word in reading from the members themselves will not come until tomorrow, but it's both chris and luke that sai
for is increasing taxes that will only pay for 8 1/2 days of government spending. now president obama has not been a leader on this. he's not been serious. he's been acting weak and, of course, clinging to his radical ideology. enough is enough. maybe it's time to have the republicans call the president's bluff. let him take the country over the fiscal cliff if he so chews. republicans were elected to get the fiscal house in order. maybe it's time to stand up for your kids, your grandchildren. maybe they should dig in their heels and say they are looking out for the future and future generations. maybe now is is a time to take a principle stand and say they are not going to let washington continue with the out of control spending, the debts and deficit. maybe now at this moment maybe that's the right thing to do. joining me now with reaction to the developing steer are congressman loui gomert and -- go ahead. >> i can totally with him that he cannot imagine our consciouses in the house because you would have to have one to imagine ours, and he's shown repeatedly over three years of no budget? come
out in the world though it is hard to find in washington these days. president obama spending holidays in beautiful hawaii where reports now surfaced where he is looking to strike a smaller fiscal deal that would extend tax cuts for the middle class but not tackling any spending cuts. chief white house correspondent ed henry is live in honolulu with more. ed, for the first time, people like joe lieberman are saying i really think we'll go over the cliff. what do you hear? >> reporter: it's a real possibility, you're right. we're a week out. people on both sides have been talking this thing to death. it might need a christmas miracle at this point to avoid going off the cliff. the president scaled back plan basically would extend unemmoment benefits for two million people who will lose them a week after christmas if there is no deal. he also wants to extend tax cuts for 98% of americans. you heard him talk about that again and again. that level of $250,000 or less. the republicans have not afreed to that on the hill obviously. when you talk to folks like senator lindsey graham, they say
and congress to make a deal and avoid those automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. obama met with top leaders from the both sides of the aisle in a rare meeting that lasted over an hour. afterward, he spoke about the importance of the deal for the u.s.'s still recovering economy. >> economists, business leaders, all think we're poised to grow in 2013. as long as politics in washington don't get in the way of america's progress. so we've got to get this done. >> senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also spoke after their meeting expressing home that the weekend would bring a deal. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. and we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> we're watching that story closely. >>> protesters demanding justice for the young woman who has died now after she was brutally beaten and gang raped on a bus
increases as far as the eye can see under mr. obama. >> when do the spending cuts happen, sarah? >> never. >> and you often see the tax increases kick in and in the health care law, and spending never gets cut. >> i think you need to look where the spending goes, provide preventive care. and we saw 80 million access preventative care and that's a net savings for the entire health care system passed on to all of us. >> how have job cuts we've seen the medical device makers, they're sounded the horn about them. how does it help the broad economy though? >> what you're seeing i readjusting of the economy. st of this tax money comes out of those making 25000 or mo more, an increase on those individuals. at the same time that we're finding out here on capitol hill about a drease on those making 250 or less, so, majority of americans. wh we have this increase on a very small portion, we see that those folks are welcoming this increase, a poll released the day before christmas put through american express and the harrison group, saw that 67% of those making 1% or more want today see ts increase
year end tax hikes and spending cuts as president obama warns failure could mean, quote, a self-inflicted wound to the economy. mike emmanuel live. after a lot of focus on john boehner, kind of sounds like democrats and others are counting on the top senate republican to get a deal. is that about right? mitch mcconnell? >> that is spot on. this has been a lot of talk about senator mitch mcconnell's ability to be a deal maker. one area he's working on is the threshold for extending the bush tax cuts. the $250,000 mark has been what democrats have been pitching. negotiations seem to be heading toward keeping the current tax rate for those making up to $400,000, a key senate conservative sounds hopeful. >> i do think that something will happen over the next few days relative to the revenue piece and hopefully we can rescue most americans from a tax increase. but what we haven't dealt with again is the spending component. >> since it is not expected that increasing the nation's borrowing ability, the debt limit will be part of this deal, conservatives may be able to fight for spendi
we are at. if you look at spending cuts first, barack obama has basically moved about $325 billion on spending and speaker boehner, according to the last real public offer, has moved about $350 billion. i think it is fair to say had both moved relatively equally. but if you turned to tax increases, obama has already moved from, again the last public real offer $355 billion while boehner's moved only $150 billion. less than half. and then finally, and i want to go to you to unpack this. the stimulus money. this is not to be forgotten. we are in a recession. and many economists say that whatever else you do with long-term entitlement reform which is real, another real thing is growing the economy. obama has moved $250 billion. the number that boehner has moved on that stimulus is zero from the last final comprehensive offer. what do you make of that pacting that we are not mere the 50-yard line anymore? >> we also add that not only has boehner month moved, he can't get his own caucus to vote on the plan he brought forward. we are not only talking about symbolic gestures here, we are
at the ratio obama was proposing spending cuts versus revenue. it was four to one. now it's one to one. >> you have that $1 trillion already passed. >> you do. but i think the credit the tea party gets for shifting that debate wag overblown. >> but it was deficit reduction versus short-term spending at the start of 2010. and it immediately moved to deficit reduction and how to do it. and that was a very fundamental, important shift in the conversation. >> we have to go, but -- we have to go, but i heard that after the show, sam stein will be on twiner. you can be there, too. >> we can get together. >> we have another important item, though, which is the biggest hurdle arguably to president obama's second term agenda. that's something you're probably never going to hear about, literally. people think of the filibuster as a talk athon to stop action in the senate. but nowadays it has been attacked with a constant extreme of silent filibusters. up next, the talking filibuster ahead live. >>> time for the your business preer oes weeks. amber and mark started north carolina's based footsteps clothi
late wednesday night. >>> president obama spending christmas in hawaii. the president going golfing for christmas eve. he's there with his family on vacation. the president greeting people at the golf course there and afterwards, the obamas went to plymouth rock beach on a marine corps base there. >> clayton: thanks. our nation has a long history of faith. but how does faith fit into politics. juan williams is here next with his analysis about it. >> rick: we told but this cop jumping into freezing water to save someone drowning. now the officer is getting the christmas gift of a lifetime. ♪ [ hudson ] we're human. we fall down. we gain weight. and we get back up. strength and determination are human too. so are dinner dates and birthday cake. introducing the new weight watchers 360 program. built for human nature so you can expect amazing. ♪ on top the world right now ♪ join for free and expect amazing. because it works. and there is one store that recognizes it. the sleep number store. the only place in the world you'll find the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number expe
, children's health care, medicaid, and obama said, no, if we're going to cut spending, we're going to protect the most vul nebl. protecting the most vulnerable takes it away and all that's left is cutting taxes. if the goal is to reduce the deficit, their goal of cutting taxes is not relevant to that goal so there's no overlap of potential agreement here. that's why there's no deal. >> let's take a listen to a very conservative retiring senator said, soon to be former senator joe lieberman, who is respected and seen as a deal maker. what we need right now is a deal. let's take a listen to something he just said. >> if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> joy, i think what he's saying there and going over the cliff is not that this would be the worst thing congress has done on an objective scale, but the notion of doing something so bad for no reason is pretty frustrating, isn't it? >> i disagree with his characterization it would be the most irresponsible thing.
, response to the part about spending cuts, and what is spending cuts is the obama administration talking about, guaranteed spending cuts? >> they already accepted a trillion dollars in domestic spending cuts in next 10 years. they put on the table additional cuts in medicare and social security not as much as republicans want but clearly they have moved on that. and i also think there will be substantial defense cuts, if we want to make a dent in the deficit. i mean this is the choice that is going to be in front of us. if, we have to do four things if we want to reduce the deficit. we have to get more revenue, we have to cut domestic spending, we have to trim and reform the health care programs in particular of medicare and medicaid and we have to cut defense. if we do all four of those things we can make significant down payment getting deficit under control. if we do some of them, the numbers are not there enough to make as much progress as we want. this is where mark and i agree. over next six to nine months we could see substantial progress towards smart fiscal policy in the country
with spending restraints. that's why obama does what he does. >> the reason i doubt that, grover, is because we've all done the math and we all absolutely agree on the math that you can't get out of the deficit hole we're in by taxing rich people even if you tax them at 100%. everybody know knows that. so when republicans say we don't have a tax problem, we have a spending problem, the fact is we've got both and we can deal with that. you gave your blessing to the proposal that john boehner put together and so many congressional republicans are scared for voting for something that feels like looks like, a tax increase because they're worried that your organization will come back to haunt them. they signed a pledge, you gave your blessing and they still couldn't get the votes on the floor. what's up with that? why did that not happen? a week ago i was hopeful we might have a deal. >> because the pledge is not to me, it's the american people. it's the people of the state that any congressman or senator is from. they have to feel that they can go to their constituents and say -- i voted against al
forward a little bit more, president obama more on spending reductions including entitlement reform, he did do some and mr. boehner, speaker boehner coming forward not just $1 million having a tax raise, those earning $400,000 to $500,000, you can get the grand bargain. it's not what we are talking today. get the fiscal cliff to where you change the scale to a bunny slope, where the skier can pick up speed, accelerate the economy up to 3%, only reducing the debt reduction down 200 billion. then with the surging economy, you get $3 trillion in february before the debt limit is broken, then the economy is so strong it can take the grand compromise and roar into the next nine years. that's the grand compromise. >> i heard you use that reference of the bunny slope. we are about to hit the bunny slope as opposed to the fiscal cliff. this is from an article in the washington post. if an agreement is reached, taxes would go up a bit for the wealthy. there would be no changes to entitlement programs, medicare, social security, no grand strategy to race cash through a tax code. a fresh start for
's president obama's way of saying, look, vote on his basic proposal, the proposal that would extend middle-class tax cut, deal with spending cuts. it's a basic plan that the president is calling for. something similar has already passed so the white house feels confident that what the president is calling for could again pass through the senate and get through the house. in order for that to happen, richard, that would involve every single democrat in the house voting for it as well as about 30 republicans. so the question is could they actually get that many republicans to vote for this pack am that the president is calling for. but politically what he is doing is essentially saying this is the plan i'm putting forth, let's get it through the senate and if it fails, it will fail through the senate house, letting republicans own that failure. putting it in a box. president obama giving the lawmakers here two options. one, to come up with their own alternative proposal. of course, that's something senate majority leader harry reid will work on. if not, he'll say put my plan to basic up or d
were sitting in the oval office now, i know you spend time with president obama, what would you tell him are the lessons he should take from the movie on house of representatives he should conduct himself on a whole range of things over the next term? >> he's got to keep that connection closer with the public closer than it was in the first four years. lincoln had those characters coming into his office every morning. after a while people said you don't have time for these ordinary people. he said you're wrong, these are my public opinion baths. you get a sense of timing, a mastery of timing when you've got the sentiment of the country behind you. but the other lesson is not to be embarrassed about making deal. during the health care thing every deal got exposed and it looks like it's the terrible thing. it the end result that matter as long as nothing illegal happens in the meantime. >> you know, doris, you just referenced what for my money is one of the most powerful scenes in the movie "lincoln," daniel day lewis exhibiting great anger and indicating that he is clothed in immense
? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior congressional correspondent. we spoke last hour. you told us that hour speaker john boehner was to convene this conference call to decide whether or not to call the house back into session. we know the senate is supposed to convene, but nothing can, of course, take place until the house is in session as well. do we know the results of that conference call? will boehner reconvene the house? >> reporter: i'm told by a source familiar with the call, which just happened within last hour, as you said, that no decision was made on the schedule or timing for the house. as we talked about an hour ago, the leaders in the house have promised the members that they won't be called back without 48 hours notice. so at t
for nearly every american. dramatic spending cuts will kick in. president obama and congress will be back from vacation tomorrow. but will anything get done? >>> plus, wild winter weather sweeping through the country. we'll bring you the latest details on which part of the u.s. could be hit next. cnbc's "worldwide exchange" starts now. >>> and welcome to a special edition of reside worldwide. ross andcle reoff today for boxes day in -- kelly are off today for boxing day. for now, you is us. >> we'll start with a brief check on the markets. energy and metals are trading higher now, wtis up about 55 cents. brent crude up 65 cents. also want to check in on the gold price, as well. gold right now down about slightly under the flat line there, 1,-658. well below the 1,700 mark. the cme globex has been closed for christmas. it's going to reopen at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. that goes for treasuries and the foreign exchange market, as well. >> as for action in the overseas markets, the u.k. is closed today for boxing day as are some of the former brish colonies. in europe the dax down about there a
will be smaller than what president obama wanted, but will come separate from spending cuts, at least at the outset, and another set of negotiations after the new year, that will have spending cuts and taxes in it. it seems to me that that's a recipe for republicans to end up getting a lot more in taxes than they would have got in all with an up-front deal. are your colleagues worried about that at all, or are you? >> first of all, you're enlightening me on something i'm not aware of. that was not the conversation i had with my colleagues across the aisle and that wasn't the conversation i had with the minority leader. so you have information that i don't have. look, you can't solve the problem with taxes. you have to do both. this country is in trouble, fiscally and financially as well as ratings. and if we don't do something significant, we'll see another rating cut. and there'll come a time when the interest costs, we cannot afford. so the question comes is, what is the best thing we can do now, given the political dynamics that are in washington that actually make some difference
decisions on taxes and spending to the future. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part ofhe discussion. that is significant development r house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and republicans will try to sell its house and senate members. if they can do that the voting begins. there is so
and automatic spending cuts take effect. it may take up president obama's bare bones stopgap measure. that plan would block tax hikes for those earning $250,000. it would extend unemployment benefits to 2 million americans and put off spending cuts until the new year brings a new congress. our expert on all matters relating to the fiscal cliff is dana bash. she joins me now from washington. dana, great to see you again. tell me does even a band-aid approach work? >> it's going to be tough. this is all math. but it really has to do with the math with regard to votes. and democrats especially who i'm talking to in the senate which is probably where this will originate, the reality is that democrats don't hold a very big majority. her going to need to have a handful of republicans to cross party lines and vote with them on the whole concept of raising any taxes. especially what the president wants which is something that is raising taxes on all americans making more than $250,000. that's the senate. never mind the house, which of course, made clear to the house speaker that they won't even go for
, the vatican. >>> president obama is in hawaii for christmas. the president is expected to spend a quiet day with his family. with the president and congress on a short holiday break, there's been no movement on fiscal cliff negotiations. before he left washington, the president said he believes a deal could be made before the december 31 deadline. >>> u.s. troops celebrated their 12th consecutive christmas in afghanistan. service men and women attended a service at the nato base in kabul, sang some carols, then enjoyed a holiday dinner. >>> and coming up on the "morning news," he may be messy funny, jack klugman from "the odd couple "has died. a look back at his remarkable career. [ female announcer ] introducing u the latest coffee machine from nespresso. modular. intuitive. combines espresso and fresh milk. the new u. nespresso. what else? available at these fine retailers. >>> firefighters in california battled a raging river yesterday to rescue a homeless man. he was living on an island in the los angeles river and got into trouble after a fast-moving storm tore through the area. rescue
, the spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff. president obama, he cut his christmas vacation short to deal with this crisis. he arrived back from hawaii just a short time ago, and the senate also returning to work today hoping to come up with some kind of agreement. but time is running out. jessica yellin, she has the latest from the white house. we've got dana bash following the developments on capitol hill. i want to start off with you, dana. what do we know about a possible compromise on the senate siepd what they might be proposed in fairly short order? >> compromise, i'm not so sure we'll see that. but i was told by a republican senator and democratic senator that the pr indicated before he left for hawaii that he, the president, is expected to send a piece of legislation up today with his scaled back tax plan. that's something that the president outlined in general terms on the friday before he left for hawaii and since then what we've been hearing from republicans, particularly mitch mcconnell's office is we can't talk about whether we can pass anything until we actually see the leg
and that is not a concern. president obama is there spending time with his family for the holiday and yesterday he went golfing before heading to the beach with the first lady and their daughters. aides say the president will have to return to washington in a day or two to deal with you know what the fiscal crisis. chief house correspondented spayeed henry is in hawaii with the president. i assume if there were any conversations between the president and the speaker we would be advised. >> they say there have not been any more calls, no contact between the high school and the speaker. that is a sign that there's been no major progress. they say that the lines of communication are still open between the president's staff, the peaker's staff. also now the circle is widening a little bit and it's including senate staff, because given what happened late last week where speaker boehner's so-called plan b fail in the house there is now momentum to try and get something going in the senate right after christmas and maybe possible something there, some sort of a stop-gap measure, hope they can pass it in the h
to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president is coming back, but they haven't gotten the 48 hour notice. they are very much out there in play. thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. when the senate returns tomorrow morning, there will be a new emphasis on members taking a larger role in the fiscal cliff negotiations that based off the current offer m
president since the great depression and i think that what barack obama has in mind to do is indeed to redistribute income from the top downward, not to cut spending, but to increase spending, it's explicit from a 20% of gdp to 25% gdp and rather than cut spending raise taxes as necessary to support that spending and i would say that is in fact essentially the french model. and the question is whether it can support enough growth in the economy. >> paul: taxes are going up, we know that, spending, going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so, we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> aen what happened this year was the supreme court helping this along, you have the justices essentially rewrite legislation changing the plain text that congress passed in order to declare obamacare constitutional, which is a little scary, that that highest justices in the land would take that sort of activist role and you mentioned france, dan, that's scary. the back drop of this whole presidential year is e
: the weight is excruciating for some and president obama left them $200 billion apart. >> the president was $200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion higher on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers will likely take on spending reform and tax cuts when the debate heats up. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. >>> a note was left by a suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in new york. more details on the person already convicted of murder. >> reporter: police say the christmas eve ambush of four volunteer firefighters happened as they fought a massive fire in new york was spilled out in typewritten detail. >> quote i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> reporter: authorities say 62-year-old william spangler, who served prison time killing his grandmother more than 30 years ago shot at first responders who arrived at his burning house, sp
expire for those more than $250,000 and something that president obama has been calling for for a long time. it would also extend unemployment insurance benefits and stave off some of those deep spending cut that is are set to go in to effect and essentially mirrors what president obama outlined when he addressed the nation before leaving for the what ryan holiday. white house officials being very tight lipped of what specifically the president is going to do and will not confirm to put this smaller deal on the table so i think we're going to have to wait until the meeting wraps up for the specifics but speaking to republican aides with the house who say that this still rests with the senate, that republicans in the house are waiting to see what the senate will do before they weigh in on a deal that may or may not be offered today so really, craig, the ball in the senate's court. >> all right. thanks to you. >>> today's "news nation gut check. the fiscal cliff specifically an article today of "why they want to go over the cliff." there's the article. he writes in part, for many republi
and cut spending. that is what they're are bound to do. barack obama ran also on that. he said he would restore fiscal responsibility and do something about the spending. this is a guy who was giving us trillion dollar deficits, both sides are being decided, and start talking about this. stuart: what is the media doing? >> typically cobbling barack obama. this guy is filing his nails while the republicans twist themselves into knots. the media are giving obama a complete pass on this one and not holding his feet to the fire on anything and keeping the gun fire on the republicans at all times. the media have been just about as silent as anyone else. all the media accept for stuart varney. stuart: flattery is the fondest milk in television. i have a prediction from you. i personally think there will be some kind of awful last-minute deal, tax the rich, don't cut spending, ignore the debt. i think that will happen. what is your prediction? >> i will put my kids and your prediction. republicans will take another step, go back another five to ten yards on the football field and the problem w
to avoid middle-class tax hikes and deep spending cuts that go into effect at the first of the new year. president obama is pushing lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to reach an agreement. >>> and help may be on the way for victims of hurricane sandy. the senate approved a spending bill worth $60 billion. the measure heads to the house where some lawmakers are hesitating to approve the bill in the final days of the current session. >>> and in maine, the first same-sex couples are legally exchanging vows today. the new law legalizing same-sex marriage went into effect at midnight, 12:01 a.m. today. some ceremonies were held overnight. same-sex marriage became legal in maryland on tuesday. become legal on tuesday. >>> and finally, talk about living on the edge. in massachusetts, several homes on plum island are in danger of plunging into the atlantic ocean. thursday's storms and pounding waves are threatening their foundations. two homes are so unstable the homeowners can't get inside to retrieve their belongings. >>> now, time to ginger and the weather. >> pittsburgh, getting more sno
obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our viewers what it really means to go over the cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassist i have
that his administration has to spending. he's the spender in chief. >> i can't let the senator say what she said and not correct the record. those $700 billion, this wonderful savings went into obama care. the idea that you save money in medicare, it was saved as part of a big spending program. >> we cut overpayments to insurance companies. >> again, here in washington people say cut while things grow. >> slowing the growth? >> yes. it's sort of like satisfiesing you have a freeze, but it's water and when water freezes it expands. we've grown 100% in 12 years. the government. the government is sig bbigger, unless we do something it will get bigger and the deficit will get bigger even if we raise taxes on everybody. we still have a huge deficit. if we do not take on spending, then the cliff may not seem like a cliff but will be a downward slide to make us like greece. no lodnger a viable economic power. >> hang on. we'll continue this. we have to take a quick break. the fiscal cliff has the president sounding like new york yankees legend yoeg gi ber ra. >> this is deja shz vu all over again.
to a principle in this world is seen as extremism, trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy. her boss couldn't handle it. her story ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ with the spark miles card from capital one, thor gets great rewards for his small business! your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics. put it on my spark card. ow. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve great rewards. [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ cheers and applause ] >> andrea: welcome back.
heading back to washington tonight to restart the negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff. if mr. obama and congress can not agree on a stopgap measure, automatic hikes and spending cuts will hit americans jan 1. peter doocy live in washington with more on this peter, what is the latest? >> reporter: gregg, the president said on friday he would see it this week and maybe if lawmakers went back to home districts to drink eggnog and eat cookies and sing christmas carols maybe they would be more in touch with the hardship so many americans are going to face if the fiscal cliff is not avoided. >> there is a mismatch right now between how everybody else is thinking about these problems. democrats and republicans, outside of this town and how folks are operating here and we've just got to get that aligned. >> reporter: the president's wife and daughters are going to stay in hawaii to continue vacationing. we're told the president may rejoin them or he may not. it all depends on how negotiations progress in the next few days. gregg: well, you know what, peter? there's not lost love between boe
spending. its pending home sales index for november. >> in other housing news, the obama administration is considering expanding its mortgage refinancing program to include borrowers whose mortgages are not backed by the government and who owe more than their homes are worth. "the journal" reports one proposal being considered would also transfer potentially riskier loans that are held by private investors into fannie and freddie and transferring billions of dollars of mortgages to the government-backed mortgage companies would require congressional authorization and temporarily change the charters of fannie and freddie. does that sound like something -- a kid -- >> i don't know if it's good or not. >> all the stuff that's not covered now. you need -- >> yeah -- >> put it into fannie and freddie again. expand their balance sheets. i don't know. >> you have a view? >> how much was the tie? >> i don't want to say. >> really? >> was this a christmas tie, holiday tie? >> no. getting back to your question -- >> go ahead. >> fannie and freddie. look at that -- >> beautiful tie. >> punting. he
gretchen carlson, thank you for spending your post christmas day with us. president obama cutting christmas vacation short and heading back to washington before we fall off of the fiscal cliff . can a deal be reached. >> a deadly winter storm unleashing snow and tornados . now thousands ever cleaning up and holiday travelers are stuck. i am tracking where the storm ised hading next. >> thank you, rick. take the gift card and hit the stores this morning. wait until "fox and friends" is over and then leave. "fox and friends" begins right now. "fox and friends". >> gretchen: good morning, i am gretchen carlson we are joined by clayton morris . rick as well . these are great guys, but clayton, because he is a tech guru of folks news and here to help all of us today. >> tech support this morning f. you have tech-related questions. send them and i will attempt to answer them all. i answered all of them. my wife said what are you doing on twitter? i said i am helping me. >> gretchen: we have big storms brewing and rick, you are aptly sitting to the right of me and you will help people get out of t
almost run out. with steep tax hikes and deep spending cuts looming, president obama used the power of his office to turn up the pressure on congress, making a quickly arranged appearance in the white house briefing room friday. >> the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. >> reporter: the president repeatedly tapping into the public's frustration to bolster his argument. >> the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound. ordinary folks, they too their jobs. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind-boggling to them and needs to stop. >> reporter: the stern words came on the heels of an hour-long meeting with congressional leaders. sources close to the talks say mr. obama gave lawmakers two options. either come up with a bill that can pass both houses or allow a vote on his plan which among other things would extend unemployment benefits and tax breaks for those making $250,000 or less while allowing rates to raise on wealthier americans. som
-- these two people ran on different issues. i mean these two parties ran on different issues. president obama ran not on spending cuts, but on tax increases for the wealthy. it's something that's going to happen next monday anyway or tuesday regardless of whether the president does anything or there's a deal or not. because it's just going to expire. >> he's known that all along. >> but the republicans ran on spending cuts. so they're the ones that ran on this. why don't they put up their spending cuts? the president didn't run on that. and the irony is when he did mention spending cuts, $716 billion in medicare cuts during the campaign, mitt romney and paul ryan and all the republicans, who wanted to do the exact same thing he did, they jumped on his case for proposing cuts to medicare. so how can you negotiate with a party that isn't serious about its own caucus, and isn't capable of controlling them and doesn't have a serious plan for dealing with spending cuts on its own, because it's afraid to take the heat? nobody wants to cut spending. let's just admit that. but if we're going to do it
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